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	<title>Comments on: Foxconn Admits Breaking Labor Laws In China</title>
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		<title>By: Mozzman</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacsr.com/en/2006/06/26/566-foxconn-admits-breaking-labor-laws-in-china/#comment-57282</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After knowing all this, why would anyone in thier right mind buy an Apple Product? Especially thier laptops and desktops which they charge an axtra 40 - 50% for the same product as a PC?

Also remember that Apples are basically PC&quot;s now but with different software. They use Intel CPU&#039;s the same hard drives as PC&#039;s and as for the motherboards, all Laptop manufacturers have thier own.

Say NO to Apple products</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After knowing all this, why would anyone in thier right mind buy an Apple Product? Especially thier laptops and desktops which they charge an axtra 40 &#8211; 50% for the same product as a PC?</p>
<p>Also remember that Apples are basically PC"s now but with different software. They use Intel CPU's the same hard drives as PC's and as for the motherboards, all Laptop manufacturers have thier own.</p>
<p>Say NO to Apple products</p>
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		<title>By: Enikő</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacsr.com/en/2006/06/26/566-foxconn-admits-breaking-labor-laws-in-china/#comment-55573</link>
		<dc:creator>Enikő</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ekisa,
the situation is the same in Hungary, where Foxconn supply for Nokia. Chinese people who manage the Hungarian factories  handle workers as animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ekisa,<br />
the situation is the same in Hungary, where Foxconn supply for Nokia. Chinese people who manage the Hungarian factories  handle workers as animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Ekisa</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacsr.com/en/2006/06/26/566-foxconn-admits-breaking-labor-laws-in-china/#comment-15952</link>
		<dc:creator>Ekisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 07:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, here in chihuahua mexico, since Foxconn bought Motorola,it has been several changes, No longer yoghurt in the dinning room, bad seats (ergonomics don\&#039;t care for foxconn) masives recruiting-discharges processes, 30 minutes (unpaid) making line waiting to leave the factory for bad metal detectors, too many temporal contracts, bad temperature control (too cold/too hot),threats to force workers to do overtime-last moment overtime cancellations, stupid decisions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here in chihuahua mexico, since Foxconn bought Motorola,it has been several changes, No longer yoghurt in the dinning room, bad seats (ergonomics don\'t care for foxconn) masives recruiting-discharges processes, 30 minutes (unpaid) making line waiting to leave the factory for bad metal detectors, too many temporal contracts, bad temperature control (too cold/too hot),threats to force workers to do overtime-last moment overtime cancellations, stupid decisions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: C. Mil</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacsr.com/en/2006/06/26/566-foxconn-admits-breaking-labor-laws-in-china/#comment-15334</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Mil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are all iPods made at Foxconn, or just the Shuffle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are all iPods made at Foxconn, or just the Shuffle?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacsr.com/en/2006/06/26/566-foxconn-admits-breaking-labor-laws-in-china/#comment-4922</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 06:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right Bob, you just toured Foxconn. Well, I just finished doing a tour of the &quot;your full of crap&quot; facility. If you went there and toured it, post some pictures on a website and let everyone see the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right Bob, you just toured Foxconn. Well, I just finished doing a tour of the "your full of crap" facility. If you went there and toured it, post some pictures on a website and let everyone see the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacsr.com/en/2006/06/26/566-foxconn-admits-breaking-labor-laws-in-china/#comment-4763</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished a tour of the Foxconn facility a few days ago.  They operate one of the cleanest, well run factories I have seen in China.  Worker&#039;s dormitories include swimming pools and other amenities you would not find elsewhere.  

Do they work hard?  Yes, but it&#039;s their option.  What people don&#039;t understand is that workers are free to walk across the street to another manufacturer if they feel compelled.  It happens all the time.    

Is this slave labor?  No.  Are there many choices for jobs and income in China?  Not at Western levels.  This is the real challenge but it&#039;s improving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished a tour of the Foxconn facility a few days ago.  They operate one of the cleanest, well run factories I have seen in China.  Worker's dormitories include swimming pools and other amenities you would not find elsewhere.  </p>
<p>Do they work hard?  Yes, but it's their option.  What people don't understand is that workers are free to walk across the street to another manufacturer if they feel compelled.  It happens all the time.    </p>
<p>Is this slave labor?  No.  Are there many choices for jobs and income in China?  Not at Western levels.  This is the real challenge but it's improving.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we need to look at what the workers think about their jobs and the conditions.  Yes, wages are less per hour there.  Why?  Because it is a different part of the world and money has different value there.  Perhaps to those workers the money made is more than enough to live, especially if they live in factory dormatories.  Living expenses are a huge cost so take that into consideration, too.  I&#039;m sure Apple will take all of these into consideration when investigating and if there is in fact a problem, they will handle it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need to look at what the workers think about their jobs and the conditions.  Yes, wages are less per hour there.  Why?  Because it is a different part of the world and money has different value there.  Perhaps to those workers the money made is more than enough to live, especially if they live in factory dormatories.  Living expenses are a huge cost so take that into consideration, too.  I'm sure Apple will take all of these into consideration when investigating and if there is in fact a problem, they will handle it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter, Switzerland</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacsr.com/en/2006/06/26/566-foxconn-admits-breaking-labor-laws-in-china/#comment-4705</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter, Switzerland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks Jade!

Sure, they like doing overtime, sleeping in dormitories, working under slavery conditions etc.

China is a dictatorship with slaves, and harming the environment. Thats a fact.
Profits are for westerners, Apple, and the management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks Jade!</p>
<p>Sure, they like doing overtime, sleeping in dormitories, working under slavery conditions etc.</p>
<p>China is a dictatorship with slaves, and harming the environment. Thats a fact.<br />
Profits are for westerners, Apple, and the management.</p>
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		<title>By: jade</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacsr.com/en/2006/06/26/566-foxconn-admits-breaking-labor-laws-in-china/#comment-4683</link>
		<dc:creator>jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living in dormitories is not bad! Where the hell else are migrant workers going to live? In the suburbs? Foxconn should be applauded for providing such perks to workers. And worlkers always want more money and lots love to work overtime. What the article never mentioned was if the workers are forced to work overtime--are they??

I think everyone is overreacting. It is true that Taiwanese (the province of Taiwan--it is not a country as many idiot Westerners believe) companies are harsher and don\&#039;t have as good management as other companies operte in China but migrant workers can leave their jobs and go to find a better management place owned by Americans or British peoples</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in dormitories is not bad! Where the hell else are migrant workers going to live? In the suburbs? Foxconn should be applauded for providing such perks to workers. And worlkers always want more money and lots love to work overtime. What the article never mentioned was if the workers are forced to work overtime&#8211;are they??</p>
<p>I think everyone is overreacting. It is true that Taiwanese (the province of Taiwan&#8211;it is not a country as many idiot Westerners believe) companies are harsher and don\'t have as good management as other companies operte in China but migrant workers can leave their jobs and go to find a better management place owned by Americans or British peoples</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Chang</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacsr.com/en/2006/06/26/566-foxconn-admits-breaking-labor-laws-in-china/#comment-4664</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Max
China may be different from the rest of the world but Chinese people are human beings just like humans in the west, north and south. 

If you, Max Liu, were a factory worker in China making iPods would you make the same arguement you made above. If you had the power to demand better for yourself would you do it? 

A typical 9am - 5pm job = 40 hours, five days a week. That means these workers worked an extra two standard western business weeks on top of their workload which is undoubtedly more than 40 hours a week already. 

There is only a fixed amount of time a workers gets to himself and his family. Subtract the amount of time you work, commute and about 7 hours of sleep and what you have left is the time you get to eat your meals, use the bathroom and have some time left over for errands and leisure. 

This formula applies to every worker throughout the world whether they are chinese, American, nigerian or Syrian. 

Every person in the world who works for a living knows this formula well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Max<br />
China may be different from the rest of the world but Chinese people are human beings just like humans in the west, north and south. </p>
<p>If you, Max Liu, were a factory worker in China making iPods would you make the same arguement you made above. If you had the power to demand better for yourself would you do it? </p>
<p>A typical 9am &#8211; 5pm job = 40 hours, five days a week. That means these workers worked an extra two standard western business weeks on top of their workload which is undoubtedly more than 40 hours a week already. </p>
<p>There is only a fixed amount of time a workers gets to himself and his family. Subtract the amount of time you work, commute and about 7 hours of sleep and what you have left is the time you get to eat your meals, use the bathroom and have some time left over for errands and leisure. </p>
<p>This formula applies to every worker throughout the world whether they are chinese, American, nigerian or Syrian. </p>
<p>Every person in the world who works for a living knows this formula well.</p>
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